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A naravno uvek ako hoces da tjuniras model mozes da skines ovu antenu i metnes neku krivu zicu u duhu likova koji su umesto antene stavljali metalne vesalice za odela i kojekakve zice, kablove,...

nebeski je napisao/la:

Još jedan detalj - Otto počeo ugrađivati metalne antene!

Moji R5 Maxi i VW Golf imaju metalne antene...

Što vas je lijepo slušati i gledati kako na 1:18.

Pozdrav iz gulaga

mali plavi je napisao/la:

Moji R5 Maxi i VW Golf imaju metalne antene...

Zato ti sve ostalo ne valja...

Moji Golfovi redom imaju plastične.

nebeski je napisao/la:

mali plavi je napisao/la:

Moji R5 Maxi i VW Golf imaju metalne antene...

Zato ti sve ostalo ne valja...

Moji Golfovi redom imaju plastične.

Na R5 je postolje plastično, antena željezna, na golfu također.

A ovo potonje je razlog zašto više ne kupujem Otto... jbg... (al tak' i tak uglavnom ništa ni ne kupujem pa onda...)

(al tak' i tak uglavnom ništa ni ne kupujem pa onda...)


Ovo kao da sam ja pisao ....

Strumf je napisao/la:(al tak' i tak uglavnom ništa ni ne kupujem pa onda...)


Ovo kao da sam ja pisao ....

Jbg...
Biće bolje.

Pih... mora se guglati za Nardija...

dmj je napisao/la:Pih... mora se guglati za Nardija...

A onaj kome nije POI bude Googlao...
1:0 je za Nedu, pretpostavljao sam da je Spark ili Bizzare, budući da oni uglavnom rade opskurne modele...

dmj je napisao/la:Pih... mora se guglati za Nardija...

Netko probleme u životu rješava inteligencijom ali je evidentno da postoje i drugi načini za rješavanje problema.

Nedo je napisao/la:

Netko probleme u životu rješava inteligencijom ali je evidentno da postoje i drugi načini za rješavanje problema.

Pero je napisao/la:

Deda, jel´to u tebe hrtljus??

02 series je napisao/la:

Deda, jel´to u tebe hrtljus??

Ne kod mene.
Kod Nede...ako ne ide onda on to riješava šakom i čekićem.
Ja pozovom majstor limara.

Opelek...

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nebeski je napisao/la:Opelek...

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Može proći i pod Chevrolet Cruze , pogotovo u ovoj boji

Vidi se da je dizajner isti.
Ovo je inače kineska rabota - Buick GS, u nas poznat kao Opel Insignia.

nebeski je napisao/la:Vidi se da je dizajner isti.
Ovo je inače kineska rabota - Buick GS, u nas poznat kao Opel Insignia.

Nezanimljiv...

mali plavi je napisao/la:

Nezanimljiv...

Ma, nemoj srat? Čuj to?

Vozio sam se u ovome, a Cruza sam imao priliku i voziti. Teško mi je to prevaliti preko usta, ali dobro idu *ebli majku. Novi su pa zato, taj dio života im valjda jedino i vrijedi. Kad pređu kilometara onda "uzmi ubij pa se pištolj"

Vela je napisao/la:Vozio sam se u ovome, a Cruza sam imao priliku i voziti. Teško mi je to prevaliti preko usta, ali dobro idu *ebli majku. Novi su pa zato, taj dio života im valjda jedino i vrijedi. Kad pređu kilometara onda "uzmi ubij pa se pištolj"

Ne znam, mnogi to govore, ali ja se držim filozofije da svaki auto vrijedi u eksploataciji koliko vlasnik u njega ulaže.

Nijedna marka ne proizvodi auta koja se ne trebaju održavati, a tužno je što dosta naših ljudi misli suprotno.

Isto tako, nijedna marka ne proizvodi auta koja se sama raspadaju nakon pet ili deset godina.

nebeski je napisao/la:

Ne znam, mnogi to govore, ali ja se držim filozofije da svaki auto vrijedi u eksploataciji koliko vlasnik u njega ulaže.

Nijedna marka ne proizvodi auta koja se ne trebaju održavati, a tužno je što dosta naših ljudi misli suprotno.

Ma sve to stoji. Ja samo govorim s aspekta kvalitete.
Imao sam BMW sa 200tkm i nikad mu ništa u unutrašnjosti zaškripalo nije, ni jedna plastika se nije tresla, svaka pizdarija na njemu je radila kao i prvog dana. Imao sam i Clia kojemu je nakon 30 tk pukao dizač prozora, sa 45tk su mu već počele plastike unutra da se čuju.
Službeni Cruz koji sam nekoliko puta vozio ima isto 30-40 tk i već počinje da "svirucka" iznutra. To su ti detalji koji me živciraju. Al dobro nije sad to tema.

Vela je napisao/la:

Ma sve to stoji. Ja samo govorim s aspekta kvalitete.
Imao sam BMW sa 200tkm i nikad mu ništa u unutrašnjosti zaškripalo nije, ni jedna plastika se nije tresla, svaka pizdarija na njemu je radila kao i prvog dana. Imao sam i Clia kojemu je nakon 30 tk pukao dizač prozora, sa 45tk su mu već počele plastike unutra da se čuju.
Službeni Cruz koji sam nekoliko puta vozio ima isto 30-40 tk i već počinje da "svirucka" iznutra. To su ti detalji koji me živciraju. Al dobro nije sad to tema.

Ma dobro, naravno da toga ima, ali u skladu s tim je i cijena, jel.
Iako, uči me iskustvo, čak i to sviruckanje je ponekad do čuvanja i odnosa prema automobilu.
Po rupčagama ako voziš auto bez imalo pažnje, prosvirat će i svaki BMW.
Kod nas obično škripe od toga i od parkiranja na jakom suncu.

Imam kolegu kojem je onaj već spomenuti 318 iS sav pobijelio po branicima, kederi mu isto krti i bijeli, a iznutra sicevi totalno propali, popucala ploča, a auto prešao jedva 120.000. Međutim, on je jedan od tih aljkavih.

nebeski je napisao/la:

Ma dobro, naravno da toga ima, ali u skladu s tim je i cijena, jel.
Iako, uči me iskustvo, čak i to sviruckanje je ponekad do čuvanja i odnosa prema automobilu.
Po rupčagama ako voziš auto bez imalo pažnje, prosvirat će i svaki BMW.
Kod nas obično škripe od toga i od parkiranja na jakom suncu.

Imam kolegu kojem je onaj već spomenuti 318 iS sav pobijelio po branicima, kederi mu isto krti i bijeli, a iznutra sicevi totalno propali, popucala ploča, a auto prešao jedva 120.000. Međutim, on je jedan od tih aljkavih.

Sve to apsolutno ima veze, ali mislim da je kvaliteta tu ipak ispred.
Ipak najbolja iskustva imam s Mečkom. 123-ka iz 1981. koju sam vozio je mogu komotno reći po mnogo stvari ispred recimo e46. Takvi auti se više ne prave. Auto ima klimu, električne prozore i što je najinteresantnije to još i danas sve uredno radi. A mjenjač, takav mjenjač više nema na tržištu. Nož ubodeš u maslac i šetaš gore dole - eto to mu je mjenjač - čak i nakon toliko godina.
Ova današnja vanago mogu se ponositi ako dočekaju godine tih Mercedesa, a kamoli da još pritom sve u njima štima.
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The price of die cast model cars will become higher - 6 Dec, 2011

Autoart die cast model was first launched in 1998. At that time, the basic
labor cost in China was around $1.60US per day for a ten hour working
day. The rate then, was almost double what it was a decade before. There
were plenty of workers waiting at the front gates of every factories
looking for work. These factories provided food and shelter for the
workers. These workers came from far away provinces in central China to
live and work in the factories for a minimum of one year and they would
return home only once a year.
Provinces in central China are the most populous.
Sichuan province alone has almost 100 million people. There
were few developments before the mid 2000’s and the young people in the
region were forced to look for jobs in the industrial zone around the
coast lines. Many of them were female workers as young as 18 years of
age, the legal age of employment, and had finished eight to ten years of
education. They wanted to earn some money to help their families.
Despite the low wages, they were able to save most of their income and
were able to buy a small place to live in their hometown after working
for a couple of years. Life was simple and the workers were happy just
to work and willing to stay in the factory year after year.
Until
early 2000’s, an average 1:18 scale Autoart models with 100 ~ 120
components would retail for around $50US and mass market toy grade model
cars would retail at only $19.99US. The manufacturers, producers,
importers, and retailers were all able to make their fair share of
profits and the collectors were very active in collecting the models.
Today,
a regular Autoart 1:18 scale model retails for around $150US. The price
has increased as much as three times over the course of 12 years but
the people involved in the manufacturing and marketing of the products
are not getting their fair share of the profit margin. Many factories
are now losing money and the main reason for this is that the labor cost
has gone up almost ten times when calculated in US dollar. The basic
worker still earns $1.60US but it is now an hourly rate instead of daily
rate. Despite the higher wages, the workers are not happy with their
jobs and always demand a higher pay. They would quit as soon as another
factory offers a higher pay. Inflation in China has become a major issue
in recent years. Housing prices have gone up ten or even twenty times
and workers can no longer buy a small place to live after working for a
few years. On the other hand, the standard of living has improved
greatly over the last decade. Televisions, smart phones and computers
have become common household items in average families. There are 500
million internet users and 600 millions mobile phone accounts in China,
three times more than the USA. There are also more Chinese learning
English than the whole America. People in China are quickly learning
what the desirable things in the world are and they are no longer happy
with a life that consist of having a shelter over your head and food on
the table to feed the family. There are more than 18 millions new cars
filling the road of China every year, 50% more than America, every
Chinese wants a car instead of paddling a bicycle.
The cost of
manufacturing a high quality 1:18 scale model has gone up tremendously
due in big part to the cost of labor. The retail prices may have tripled
in the past decade but the people involved in the making and marketing
of the products are much worst off.
The mark up factor from
production cost all the way to the final retail price is largely
depended on the upfront investment and the estimated selling quantity.
For example, designer brand clothes itself may cost only $10US to
produce, but the marketing cost such as fashion show, advertising,
designing fee and packaging may cost tens or even hundreds of thousands
of dollars. If the clothes are sold in hundreds of pieces, the retail
price will have to be $100US or over in order to breakeven the
investment. If it is mass-market clothing selling in tens of thousands
of pieces, under the same production cost of the $10US, the retail price
can be as low as only $30US. For a die cast model car, the main upfront
investment is the tooling cost (moulds). The licensing fee can also
represent a large sum of money for some hot subjects and upfront payment
is to be paid to the car makers regardless if the model is selling or
not. The tooling cost for a 1:18 scale model is an investment of six
figure amounts, if the selling quantity is in tens or hundreds of
thousands, then the amortization of the tooling fee is only one or two
dollars for each model. But if the selling quantity is only in few
thousands of pieces, then the amortization of the tooling is tens of
dollars for each model. The same applies to license fees; a hot subject
license fee can be in the six figure amounts.
Mass market toy grade
die cast models can be sold in tens or even hundreds of thousands of
pieces; the amortization of tooling fees and license fees is not a major
cost factor in this case. But for high quality collectable die cast
models, only thousands of pieces will be sold, very seldom would it
break into the five figures level. Therefore, the amortization of
tooling cost and licensing fees becomes a major cost factor.
Until
now, the mark up factor for all die cast model cars is set at around 2.5
~ 3 times from production cost to retail price. It may be workable for
mass market products, but it is no longer viable for high quality
models. There are in fact much fewer high quality new die cast models
being released into the market recently because there is no profit to be
made for people involve in the business.
The factories are being
squeezed to keep the prices as low as possible and they are aware that
if the prices become too high, very few people will buy model cars. Even
if the factories make no profit, it is still better than receiving no
orders. If fewer orders come in, thousands of workers are still paid the
same but with lower output. Major OEM model car factories in China are
minimizing their production capacity or changing their product line
because manufacturing die cast models has become too expensive and too
complicated when the labor cost is so high and the production involves
hundreds of processes using thousands of workers.
When the price of
model cars continues to climb higher and higher, less and less people
are collecting them. When there are less collectors buying the model
cars, retail shops have a much harder time to survive with the declining
sales and the higher cost of operations. The online shops are also
taking away a big part of the retailing business because they have much
lower overhead and they can sell with a lower profit margin. We are
seeing model car shops closing down one by one in recent years.
Die
cast model cars are classified as toys and the companies can only
participate in toy related exhibitions and trade fairs where mostly toy
related traders go to conduct their business. As long as people regard
these die cast models as a toy, it cannot be priced too high or else
people will say it is too expansive and refuse to buy them no matter how
nice and delicate the model may be.
For example, a normal Swiss
watch consists of less than a hundred components and can be priced for
several hundred or even several thousands of dollars. Most of these so
called Swiss watches are all having the cases and bands manufactured in
China then shipped to Switzerland to have the movement fitted which will
then qualify the watch to become Swiss made. When it is Swiss made, it
can be priced ten times more than watches made in developing countries.
This is the norm in the market and the general perception of consumers.
Most people accept that if the watch is made in Switzerland, it has to
be expansive. And if the product is made in China, it has to be cheap
even though the quality is very good.
The development time for a high
quality 1:18 scale model that consist of more than a hundred
components, is around one year. If the component number is several
hundreds of pieces, then the development time can be two years or even
more. Each process during the development period requires many
experienced engineers to work on the project. The whole development is
far more complicated than regular watch making.
For a high quality
1:18 die cast model car that is made in China, collectors are already
complaining that the prices are too high when models are retailed at
$100US or over. Some collectors even commented that the workers are
getting too little pay and the producers are making too much profit by
raising the prices again and again. The true fact is the opposite; the
producers are not getting enough money to pay for the ever increasing
worker salary. If the model producers were to apply the norm of the
other products as mentioned, the viable retail prices would have to be
doubled or even tripled. Unfortunately, the product is regarded as toy
by the general public even though some will name it as collectable. When
it is a toy, it has to be cheap, especially when it is made in China.
There must be a change in the product perception by the general public
and the price must be higher than what it is now, otherwise, the wages
of the workers are going to increase year by year; more and more
factories will stay out of the business when they can no longer afford
to lose more money and very few collectable die cast models will be made
in the future..

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Možda naša djeca dočekaju neko drugo vrijeme.
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